| Worlds at War: The 2,500 - Year Struggle Between East and West | 
 enlarge | Author: Anthony Pagden
Publisher: OUP Oxford
Category: Book
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Sales Rank: 123294
Media: Hardcover
Pages: 576
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Dimensions (in): 9.1 x 6.4 x 1.6
ISBN: 0199237433
EAN: 9780199237432
ASIN: 0199237433
Publication Date: March 13, 2008
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 An entertaining overview with good insight September 18, 2008
I thoroughly enjoyed Pagden's book. His emphasis on the age-old conflict between east and west may be slightly simplistic at times but, as far as I can see, it rings true. Greeks vs. Persians, Romans vs. Parthians, Latin vs. Greek and so on.
Of most interest to me was the part wherer he covers the conflict between Islam and the West. Having recently read Bernard Lewis' excellent book on the same subject, "What went wrong?", what struck me most was the similarities between the main conclusions of Pagden and Lewis.
All in all a thought-provoking and entertaining, but also very topical, account. Between them, Lewis and Pagden have caused me to reconsider my view of Islam and its future in modern society.
 A Very Political History March 21, 2008
23 out of 29 found this review helpful
The two worlds in question are West and East, where East means more or less Islamic civilization and its forbearers. Apparently, they inevitably collide, and they have been for centuries. This much is just a familiar retelling of the `clash of civilizations' tale that has become since Samuel Huntingdon first reinvigorated it several years ago. Prof. Pagden fleshes out the history of the conflict and adds a few twists of his own. His account has a fashionable anti-religious tang to it, and he traces the divide of east and west to the invasion of Greece by the Persian Xerxes (?!?).
Admittedly, I approached this book with some apprehension. I am not fond of the clash of civilizations account which I consider to be misleading if not down right false. The primary fault, though, seems to be more straightforward. Pagden writes his narrative over several millennia and continents, naturally covering areas of history in which he is not an expert. The results are disastrous: wherever Pagden strays outside his own area of expertise the book is replete with serious factual errors which lay a perilously weak foundation on which to build his ideological claims.
One example, chosen almost at random: Pagden introduces the historian "Megasthenes whom Alexander appointed satrap of Anachosia and Gedosia, [who] warned his readers, never believe anything you hear about the Indians, because they are people who have never been conquered - and in Greek eyes, an unconquered people were an unknown people" (p.97) However, Megasthenes was not really a historian, was never appointed satrap of anywhere, and most probably never met Alexander (he would have been very young or not yet born when Alexander died). Oh, and he never said what Pagden claims he said. By the way Megasthenes is most important (almost only) western source on ancient India.
Such errors are sadly common. Particularly offensive is the outdated and archaic portrayal of al-Ghazali as the man who ended rational free thought in the Islamic world. This was unacceptable a hundred years ago, and is even less acceptable now that his `Incoherence' is readily available in English.
Prof. Pagden's work is flawed, then, at the foundations. One is tempted to conclude that the ideology came first, borrowed from Huntingdon or Fox News or who knows where. And that the history was stretched to fit later. Perhaps I have been to harsh. Pagden's book is not all bad, and his factual claims are not always flawed. But I will be looking elsewhere.
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